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Ok this is for those die hard LC users out there. I am here waiting for you to "sell" me on why these lures are worth the high dollar price tag?

WARNING, I am a tough sale so be prepared with facts.... I am serious and not trying to be funny or rude. I just really want to know why these lures cost so much more then other lures? I have my own pre conceived notions but I am willing to listen and be open about this. But if your defense is simple because they catch fish well, then you don't have a defense. However, I will accept "I like them" as an answer. Sort of like artwork beauty is in the eye of the beholder. So, If you like them then that is good enough for me. Other then that, the floor is yours....

Ready?......... Enlighten me.
 

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because every dollar more a bait costs, makes it just THAT much better!

lol ok ok Im totally kiddin!

With the lucky crafts, I'd have to say that the finish and the balance of the bait is what makes the most difference between it and a lesser crankbait. Also the hardware that is used on the bait is top notch. Im not sure about everyone else, but I have yet to change out a hook on a new lucky craft.
 

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Keith, I fought it long and hard also. Its simple. They catch fish. Bite the bullet and buy one if you are not satisfied I'll buy it from you for your cost. Drew
 
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LakeCityYankee said:
because every dollar more a bait costs, makes it just THAT much better!

lol ok ok Im totally kiddin!

With the lucky crafts, I'd have to say that the finish and the balance of the bait is what makes the most difference between it and a lesser crankbait. Also the hardware that is used on the bait is top notch. Im not sure about everyone else, but I have yet to change out a hook on a new lucky craft.
Ok let me see if I got this. The finish is better then a Rapala? Or a Bandit? In what way? Why then does Arbass mention in one of his posts that his LC lure is all rough looking and the paint is all chipped off?

I have bougt a couple in years past and NONE of the ones I have bought can say they had a better finish. I bought a Sammy and another top water bait that has 2 props one in front and 1 in back. Paint chipped off both of these quickly just like other baits.
 
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Keith, I fought it long and hard also. Its simple. They catch fish. Bite the bullet and buy one if you are not satisfied I'll buy it from you for your cost. Drew
Drew, are these baits the only ones that catch fish? I have a $2 jointed lure that I bought last year. I have caught plenty of fish on that bait. In fact, one time at Stick Marsh I was using this lure and my partner was using a Pointer and didn't catch anything and I caught 3. We both laughed at that.

Anyway, so if I can catch fish on a $2 lure, $4 lure, $5 lure etc why do I need to buy a $18-$20 lure?

Sell me guys. haha.
 

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I have a whole box of smithwicks and rapalas but they didn't get much play this year. I don't know why they just get bit. I'm a tight ass but I have 4 of them to go with the 50 other sticks I have.
 

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The Daiwa TD minnow was the first Japanese lure to make a big impact on US bass fishing, followed by Micheals Pop-R type lure and LC's original wooden Sammy and 78 series Pointer. What these lures have in common is extremely sharp hooks, high quality and new finishes. The Japanese lures caught bass where traditional lures failed. So they were worth the money.
I'm not convinced that deep diving or lipless crank baits are any better then what is now available from the traditional companies.
Tom
 

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I only have a couple sammys and some lipless the only one that gets any water time is the sammy, as far quality i think theres other lures that work just as well and i wouldnt mind losing a 4 dollar spook but id crap my pants losing a sammy. But it boils down to confidence, which i think is a crucial part of fishing. I feel that if you have faith in a particular lure/color it will more than likely produce for you, but just because some guy that knows sqaut about bass fishing, buys a 20 dollar luck craft doesnt mean hes gonna put bass in the boat. But im not gonna say that if i feel that a lure will produce whether it be 2 dollars or 25 dollars you can bet its going home with me. Dave
 

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imonembad said:
Keith, I fought it long and hard also. Its simple. They catch fish. Bite the bullet and buy one if you are not satisfied I'll buy it from you for your cost. Drew
This is the same offer that was given to me and what got me started on LC. I am no sales man at all and its all up to you to buy one or not. I have alot of confidence in this bait was just as sceptical as you was,maybe more. I was also told,I dont honestly know how true it is,that these baits are more balanced than others and when you pause the bait it's just like its stunned it doesnt move.
I have changed out a hook only due to i wanted to try red hook on front. Other than that my hooks are still very sharp.
 
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Ok well, I tried. It always comes back to they catch fish. Which I am fine with that assessment because that is an opinion. And everyone's opinions are worth the same as anyone else's.

I guess what I was looking for is do these lures go through a process that no other lure goes through? Is the paint used to paint these baits better? If so, how? Is the seal coat better quality then used on cheaper baits? Do they apply more coats then cheaper lures? Do they use different hooks? Hardware then other premium baits? Are they manufactured differently then other plastic baits?

The answers to the above questions might explian some of the cost difference to me. It is more costly to apply 2 coats of paint rather then 1. To seal their baits if they use 3 coats instead of 2 like other baits use? Only a guess? You get the jist.

Because guys, if this is not the case then all we are paying for is a name. That is the purpose of this thread. To find out if there is justification in these lures prices over Rapala, Spro, Bandit, heck even bass pro's versions?

The question is not do they catch fish? We all know they do. The questions is do they catch fish that cheaper baits do not? If so, I will need to see allot of data similar to like one of Ouachita's posts :D :victory: Otherwise if I can catch just as many fish on a Rapala DT series crank or a Bandit or a Spro etc as you can with a LC crank why would you want to spend twice as much money to catch the same amount of fish?

I am willing to accept the high price. I just need convincing. Because as I think right now, it is simply that LC makes a higher profit margin on their baits then other companies. I don't have the facts for my opinion which is why I am asking.

Thanks.
 

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I dont mean that the finishes are more durable than other cheaper baits... I mean in a lot of cases, the finishes are more detailed. For example, if look at the LC shad finishes you will see that they have multiple size scales within the same finish... unlike most other brands which will have pretty much just one scale pattern size and thats it. I believe the varied size scale patterns on the LC give a more realistic appearance and perhaps even reflect light differently.
 

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I hear you and I can only really talk about the sp110 thats the bait i have and love I can't comment on any other LCs. There is an internal weight in this 110 like none I have ever seen. when you pause it it justs sets there right out of the box. Smithwick says that but you have to add suspend dots or strips to get them to do it. I think thats is why the fish eat it. Drew
 
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Here are a few examples.

LC Gerald Swindle GDS which costs $15



Here is an impressive looking bait



This bait only costs $7. It is made by Megabait.

Here is a Rapala DT series bait that is made out of balsa wood. Yet it sells for $6.29



How about these?



Costs $4.99 at extremlures.com



This Spro Aruko shad costs $7. Pretty awesome looking bait.

Here is the LC LVR D which costs $15.



Some are different looking or have different shapes that only LC has. Those I might understand better as they are unique. I didn't even get into megabass or others that followed suite with LC. Just know that there are plenty of "cheaper" options that catch plenty of fish too.
 

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Keith, No offense...... :neener: :neener: :neener:
Because they look so cool..... really I have no clue as to why they are more money, it was just a few months ago, I finally broke down and ordered a Sammy and 2 Skeet Reese crankbaits, I caught a couple fish on the crankbaits,, but to be honest, when I ordered them, the first thing on my mind was not ,, these high dollar baits better catch me allot of fish, or i can order 4 or 5 Bandits for the same price, it was damn I am finally gonna have a few LC's, always wanted a few, because they look so damn cool. Does is cost more to make them, I do not know, are they better baits, again I do not know, do they have a killer finish - HECK YEAH!, did they run true right out of the box,, YEP...... Glad I have them in my collection, and I am sure a day will come when nothing else is catching fish and I will tie one on and if I am lucky enough catch a few fish and maybe a fish of a lifetime,, how cool would that be.....
 

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To be honest the LC LVR D is a much nicer looking bait, the Spro looks like a shiner that got stepped on by the kids a few times....
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notice the different sizes of the scale patters on the lc baits... they have different size and shape scale patters on the top then on the bottom half of the baits. The other baits, all have the same scale pattern covering the entire bait. I dont know if this matters but to me that says that there is more attention given to detail.

I dunno.. now i want one of each pictured lol
 
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Brian, You realize the Spro is the one above the LC? :tongue2: But hey if YOU think that bait looks bad compared to the LC then I appreciate your opinion. To me I see a whole lore more detail in that Spro then I do in that LVR. The scale pattern in the LC is just criss crossing lines forming triangles. The Spro are actual scale shapes. Notice the lips on the Spro compared to the LC? But neither are bad by any means. Heck that LC looks pretty darn good also. Both are works of careful design and quality. Yet 1 sells for $7 while the other sells for more then twice as much, why?

Jared, you mean the straight lines on the bottom? The same ones that are on the top? haha. All they did was not carry all the same lines from the top all the way down to the bottom half. But it is different I agree with that.

They both are nice looking for sure. As are all of the baits I posted.

But this might be a Senko VS the knock offs type of thread or a Ford VS Chevy or Dodge thread. They are all nice baits that all have unique features and qualities that make them all fish catchers. Does one catch more? I will leave that up to you to decide. I guess it really doesn't matter which one costs more. The point is that allot of people are buying it. So kudos to LC and the other companies that found a way to sell us lures that cost twice as much as many others. ;)

I have nothing against LC or Megabass or any other high dollar lure mfr. I just don't buy their stuff unless it goes on sale. I seem to do "alright" with my "cheaper" stuff lol.
 

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keith you are reading my mind I have been wanting to ask this question for the longet time but didnt(chicken or little cat I guess)I have my cranks I do very well,but the problem comes with stick or minnow baits I have been eyeing the 78 and 110 pointers for the post spawn and cooler water temps.Very interested in the comments being made and as of yet have not heard a bad thing about them.I will make sure that i buy a lure retriver or build a spark plug knocker before I throw one.
 

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keith    i think most of the people are talking about the pointers and not the crank baits or lipless vibes
i have not fish my new pointers yet but won't have anything to compare them to except my rapalas,i also purchased mine from ebay buying 4 lc pointers for 24 $  so the price wasn't tooooo bad thats compareable to the new x raps
and i bought some of those too.
and the finish on the LC compared to the newer x-rap aw hell they both look great
later
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I once heard the reason they cost so much is because of them coming from japan and the costs it takes to get them here. Im not sure how much I believe that but... I did hear that once... from a tackle distributor I was friends with
 
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