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I have been mulling this over in my mind, and in either case, I can come up with pros and cons. However, the question that I want to pose is this: When filling up a flipping/pitching setup, do you use backing and only use enough braid to get the job done, or do you fill the reel up completely with braid?

With the setup that I am going to end up getting, I will be using 60# Spiderwire, that has a 12# diameter. Should I use 12# backing, or could I go with a higher # line?

Part of me wants to stay with the braid all the way through, and part of me says that adding the backing would make better sense, and would save the braid for more uses over time.
 

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Personaly I go about 50 - 50 . I use to go with just enough ' braid ' to get the job done for pitching , BUT sometimes I would see a fish turn and out of reflex I would cast to it with what I had in my hand and needless to say there wasnt enuff braid and I only tied an overhand knot to join the backing mono to the braid.

So, now adays I use about 50 - 50 just incase .
 

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Okay, her is my theory. ALL the line companies have fisherman sold everyone needing line all the way to the spool. I don't, not on one baitcast reel, not one. No matter what baitcaster you use you don't need all the line. Reels cast best with a full spool, keep them that way.

Here is what I do.

I put some old trash line (ususally 25# Big Game) on the spool and then cover it with electrical tape (it molds right into the line). How much? depends on the reel. I use Shimano reels exclusively. With a regular Curado & BSF, I fill them 1/2 the way, the Chronarchs (Gold) I only use a small amount as there spool is so large. Same with the Chronarch MGs. My Calais' (which I like less that the MGs) I fill them half way. As for braided line, if I am putting it on a flipping of pitching rod, you don't need much line, UNLESS you are also using it for frogs and need a LONG cast.

You have plenty of line even for the longest of casts, unless you are using the Calcutta (gosh I forget the name) but the one with the computer chip in it. If you are throwing that, NEVER use backing. I have throw all the 10# line off of one with a 1/4 ounce weight!!

I re-spool once a month in non-tournament months. If I have tournaments in a month they are respooled before the first day of practise, and then as needed.

Make sense?

This system works really well for me.

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Yup, makes sense. The rod that I am going to be getting will be the CastAway "Workhorse" CD76-X and the Chronarch CH50MG for the flipping/pitching outfit. It's a 7'6" Heavy action rod, so I don't think that I will be doing any type of froggin' with it. I would reserve a 7' M action rod for that kind of work.
 

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With flipping rigs it doesn't matter how much line is on a spool since line isn't peeled off in a cast. You only need enough to flip a lure out, and you need enough to play a fish in. Pitching does involve line peeling off in a snappy cast wit ha full spool. But until you have a 35# striper grab the bait you won't appreciate having high quality line all the way down to the spool knot. With brakes smoking and rod bowed, you'd better have the best line you can afford. I used backing for a long time, but no more. I've had big fish take it out to the union knot and snap it right there. If the backing is junk line you'll lose the whole thing, maybe retaining the junk line when it's over. I fill a reel with braid and find it casts about the same until it gets down to half spooled. If I decide the business end is wearing and damaged some I reel it up on another spool so the formerly unused line becomes the new business end, getting double mileage out of it. Does my braid slip o nthe spool when not backed? Nope. I pull the spool out, tie a Palomar knot around it, tape the tag end down with surgeon's tape, and even with the line out 100% it doesn't slip.

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" I would reserve a 7' M action rod for that kind of work."

A medium rod for frogs? Are you throwing them into heavy cover? You'll never get them out without a rod with a great deal of backbone and braid!

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It worked for my Dad back in the day, it will work for me. ;D
 

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I do the same thing!! My dad taught me too!


The Fishing Coach said:
Okay, her is my theory. ALL the line companies have fisherman sold everyone needing line all the way to the spool. I don't, not on one baitcast reel, not one. No matter what baitcaster you use you don't need all the line. Reels cast best with a full spool, keep them that way.

Here is what I do.

I put some old trash line (ususally 25# Big Game) on the spool and then cover it with electrical tape (it molds right into the line). How much? depends on the reel. I use Shimano reels exclusively. With a regular Curado & BSF, I fill them 1/2 the way, the Chronarchs (Gold) I only use a small amount as there spool is so large. Same with the Chronarch MGs. My Calais' (which I like less that the MGs) I fill them half way. As for braided line, if I am putting it on a flipping of pitching rod, you don't need much line, UNLESS you are also using it for frogs and need a LONG cast.

You have plenty of line even for the longest of casts, unless you are using the Calcutta (gosh I forget the name) but the one with the computer chip in it. If you are throwing that, NEVER use backing. I have throw all the 10# line off of one with a 1/4 ounce weight!!

I re-spool once a month in non-tournament months. If I have tournaments in a month they are respooled before the first day of practise, and then as needed.

Make sense?

This system works really well for me.

cbs
 
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