Mary, a friend of mine went to Atkins last week and he and his son caught 5 that weighed 32 pounds with 2 eight pounders!!! He called his wife and had her bring a camera and scale out to weigh them. I'll try to get him to e-mail me the pics and I'll post them. Of course he wouldn't tell me where he caught them or what they were using, but he had one heck of a trip!!!