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Reading through my March BASS Times "What on my line?" Aaron Martens new scrounger lure. I'm going to have a talk with that young man! He knows who invented that combination and it wasn't Aaron!
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Ps; Fish4funInFl, You might as well post the info for everyone.
 

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who invinted it?
There was a patent back in the 60's for the oscillating head jig that became the Scrounger jig and plastic tails used mostly in salt water back then.
I was the first, to the best of my knowledge to modify the scrounger head to add a larger hook and add s rainbow trout colored sluggo. See the swim bait post reposted.
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Where can I find one or something like it?
You might want to check out Jig fishing tips on this forum, re; Charkbait Wiggle head.
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Aaron Marten has come out with his Scrounger head jig and they are tearing up the local lakes with this new lure. The shad bite is on and the 1/8 oz size with small hologram shad fluke is winning tournaments.
The original Scrounger was invented by John Waters of San Clemente CA John passed away this year at age 86. John invented the scrounger head for the surf and bay fishing and I wish I knew that before he passed away so I could have shared how his lure became the secret big bass lure during the late 80's to early 90's. Aaron should acknowledge who invented and named the lure he is promoting as his own.
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Just learned that Berkley will be introducing their Scrounger head jig next month.
Remember who introduced this "new" hot lure to TBH members, although very little interest shown.
Tom
note; the scrounger was a hot lure at Amistad and the CA delta this year and the reason so much interest among the pro's.
 

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Maybe everyone was off buying some, like me. I ordered $50 worth to experiment with. They are as high as a cat's back. What are some particulars on that "small hologram shad fluke"? Not that it might work here, but just curious. Maybe it would. I love 'different'. :baitmonkey: :baitmonkey: :baitmonkey: :baitmonkey: :baitmonkey:

are all over me tonight.

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I ordered some the first time you mentioned it and used them a few times with no results to show for it. I am not sure if the lip is suppossed to be pointing down or up? They came both ways and easily slide up or down.

Grubs in general on jig heads work hit or miss out here. Not sure why they don't produce better then they do for me?

At Garcia they produce well enough to keep them handy. At Stick Marsh not a single fish has been caught and I have thrown it numerous times. These lakes are connected although not navigable between the two due to a spillway.
 

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The collar points upright toward hook eye and should stay in place. Fish these like a crank bait and try yo match the fluke or whatever to the color of the baitfish, like a golden shinner in Florida.
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Talked with Scott Kolbinsky co-owner of Aaron Marten lures who makes the Scrounger jig today. Scott and his son Josh are running this company, making everything in the US and hiring Vets to assemble the product, so this is a "made in America" product. Scott mentioned he does look at TBH site. The scroungers are catching fish everywhere and all species. Aaron apparently has not contributed much to this effort and Scott was glad to know about the background and actually fished this lure back in the 70's. He is contacting Tom Waters, John Waters son. Give these lures a try, they work.
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Here is a photo of the Scrounger jigs that I ordered from Charkbait.com and they show the lips pointing up and down just like the ones I got:



The heavier jigs had them pointing down like a crankbait. The lighter smaller one had them pointing up. Do they all need to point up?
 

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hiring Vets to assemble the product, so this is a "made in America" product :tbh_flag: :usa:. Scott mentioned he does look at TBH site :thumbup01:. Tom
 

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I found a discussion on that bait, somewhere off in ethernet land, where the blade is described as roughly rotating like a one-bladed prop plus it flutters, depending on speed of retrieval.

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Here is a photo of the Scrounger jigs that I ordered from Charkbait.com and they show the lips pointing up and down just like the ones I got:



The heavier jigs had them pointing down like a crankbait. The lighter smaller one had them pointing up. Do they all need to point up?
You need to remember that artist arrange products for photos, not fisherman. Some must of thought that the picture look more balanced arranged that way. Use the lures with the collars up!! Also the Wiggle heads haven't been manufactured since 1995 and the inventory that Chart Bait has is old and the collars may have taken a set. The original Scrounger and the new Aaron Martens models had both long thin (.05) collars and shorted more rounded thicker (.06) collars depending on the weight'. 5/8 oz to 1 1/2 oz round collars. You should also trim the tapered lead cone behind the collar on the wiggle heads to get the flukes or what ever further forward. Aaron's scroungers don't need any modification and have Gamakatsu hooks.
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I found a discussion on that bait, somewhere off in ethernet land, where the blade is described as roughly rotating like a one-bladed prop plus it flutters, depending on speed of retrieval.

Jim
They oscillate back and forth like a crank bait. If you try to use them without a trailer, worm, grub soft plastic jerk bait , they tend to spin around. You can tie hair on them and use with a short grub also.
Tom
ps; Jim have you checked your PM lately?
 

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Mighty interesting. I have alot of luck with Flukes this time of year although it is usually weightless. I might have to get some of these bad boys. I too have read the article is Bass Times but I wait until I hear something from others before I jump on the bandwagon. Will definitely get some today for my trip Sunday. Thanks guys.

-Joe
P.S. Tom I agree, if Aaron didn't invent this he should at least acknowledge where it originated. They do make it sound like it was his idea. Kinda like the horsiehead or whatever it was called, that he used to get second at the Classic off the bridge pylons.
 

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Joe, get one package for $6 with 2 each jigs. The 3/8 oz with 5" flukes works well. It's a $3 crank bait that can be at any depth.
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note; I suggest giving Scott or his son Josh a call; 812/539.3474 and ask them what type of trailers and colors are working in your area.father & son company and they are good people. e mail [email protected]
 

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Thanks Tom. It was surely appreciated.
 

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They oscillate back and forth like a crank bait. If you try to use them without a trailer, worm, grub soft plastic jerk bait , they tend to spin around. You can tie hair on them and use with a short grub also.
Tom
ps; Jim have you checked your PM lately?
That explains the trouble someone was having with the bait twisting their line. Can't be used as is? I think they were discussing dressing the hook with feathers.

I just checked PMs. All were showing already read. PM sent.

Jim
 
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