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Jim, Thanks for your kind words. I was not offended from anything said from members of this board. What may be important in my mind to share, may be of little interest to the members. We are all creatures of habit and tend to repeat what works best for us. I was just trying to expand the envelope a little, based on experiences that most fishermen have not had. It's not my nature to sit back and follow and will continue to find a way to share information, for what it's worth.
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Tom, by all means, share all you wish. I will always enjoy reading what you have to say, even in cases where it may be something I feel I already know. A refresher never killed anyone and a different point of view can always open up new ideas and remind us of ones we already have. :)

I wish more people would just openly share tips and advice without being asked.

Please never stop sharing. :D
 

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Definitely no need for anyone's feathers to ruffle. This as well as others is a board of many different folks with a lot of different ideas. I will have to admit though Tom and Jim, some of the posts you guys make just baffle me. I too realize how under educated I was in Bass fishing. It takes me a while to absorb some of the things you guys say. That whole color and contrast deal you guys replied to my post about the crankbaits just about killed me. It took a while to understand, but once I did, I have doubled my crankbait catch, and has become one of my go to lures for all types of cover. I have learned why the bill is different, longer, wider, or skinnier. I know what applications to use them for now where as when I joined this board, I did not own one crank. Your seasonal periods has been awesome. Everytime I go fishing, I read those posts, and assess my situation. It has helped me tremendously. I really don't think KeithsCatch was trying to offend. His question reminded me of the question I asked Jim on the old Insider board. Everytime he posted something, it seemed people were just ready to pounce and criticize Jim for what he was saying. It was wrong and I couldn't understand why he did it. I thanked Jim for joining this board when he reminded me it was I who followed him. You guys are awesome. Please keep up the great posts as I am absorbing as much as I can. Thanks again!!!!
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Thanks Joe! I know that some of this stuff is over the top and so different then whats is generally excepted. I also realize that most people reading some of the information will never give it more than a passing thought and question who is this guy anyway, some crack pot! All I can say is that is their choice. The only thing that would tick me off is to challenge my credibility and I know Jim feels the same. You can take what you want from free information, it's offered without strings. Someday when you are old and gray, all you can hope for is an opportunity to give something back to the sport that has given you so much pleasure, share a few things and help someone like you who appreciates catching bass.
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Ok somehow I think a few things need to be clarified here.

My post was placed simply because Tom himself asked the question why bother? Since I relate to this question and often ask myself why I provide so much detailed info about things that I do, I thought I would offer some input as to why some may not bother. I in no way suggested not to provide any information or to discuss things that are only asked for. I merely stated what happens when we cough up knowledge and infoprmation that no one asked for and then wonder why we got such a low response.

I am all for the sharing of fishing knowledge and is why I am so active on fishing boards. I am not an observer. I chime in with both feet. I am also not a newb fisherman and I know a thing or two about the sport. There are really two things in life that I am extremely knowledgeable about. 1) God (Christianity) and 2)Fishing. in that order. I take great pleasure in both of these and enjoy sharing and learning in each. I will never get to the point that I will shut the doors to learning in either of these arenas. They are just to large to be completely mastered by anyone person.

So take what I said with a grain of salt and I hope Tom can appreciate where the reference to the casting pearl before swine came from and why it was shared.

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KeithsCatch said:
Ok somehow I think a few things need to be clarified here.

My post was placed simply because Tom himself asked the question why bother? Since I relate to this question and often ask myself why I provide so much detailed info about things that I do, I thought I would offer some input as to why some may not bother. I in no way suggested not to provide any information or to discuss things that are only asked for. I merely stated what happens when we cough up knowledge and infoprmation that no one asked for and then wonder why we got such a low response.

I am all for the sharing of fishing knowledge and is why I am so active on fishing boards. I am not an observer. I chime in with both feet. I am also not a newb fisherman and I know a thing or two about the sport. There are really two things in life that I am extremely knowledgeable about. 1) God (Christianity) and 2)Fishing. in that order. I take great pleasure in both of these and enjoy sharing and learning in each. I will never get to the point that I will shut the doors to learning in either of these arenas. They are just to large to be completely mastered by anyone person.

So take what I said with a grain of salt and I hope Tom can appreciate where the reference to the casting pearl before swine came from and why it was shared.

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Please do not think for a second that your reply bothered me, I would have instantly let you know if it did.
Some folks just sit back gather information without wanting to become involved. I post stuff without being tied to a specific question because the question may never come up and those people who need the information the most may never know.
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I think that one of your problems in encountering "like minds" to discuss the technical matters of fishing is that from what I can tell - it is because there aren't that many people out there that are in the same "league" as you are. While I like to consider myself knowledgeable in fishing matters I lack the years of experience and access to the more technical aspects of fishing - which is mostly a result of a lack of time. - we can't all be retired.
 

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I think that one of your problems in encountering "like minds" to discuss the technical matters of fishing is that from what I can tell - it is because there aren't that many people out there that are in the same "league" as you are. While I like to consider myself knowledgeable in fishing matters I lack the years of experience and access to the more technical aspects of fishing - which is mostly a result of a lack of time. - we can't all be retired.
I'm old not retired, 2 more years for me. Thank you for posting what you think. I was hoping this wasn't some sort of competition where I know more than everyone else does. Everyone knows something about bass fishing that I don't know and collectively if we share that knowledge , we all benefit. If you think for one second that my ideas are understood by everyone or anyone some of the time, you would be mistaken. When I sat down and created the Cosmic Clock and Bass Calendar and drew it up, you can't imagine how proud I was, it look clear cut to me. As it would turn out after a few seminars, I was the only one who understood it and that was nearly 30 years ago. It was not until In-Fisherman came out and slowly introduced the same concept of seasonal periods that mainstream bass fisherman began to accept some of the information. Today terms like pre-spawn are commonly accepted, but not be completely understood. If someone like Jim, who is the best communicator with bass fisherman that I have ever known came up with that information, the bass fishing community would have comprehended the concepts better. So if you or anyone else doesn't understand me, just say so, it will just help me know what you are thinking and I can reconsider how to respond.
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I've had a tough time staying on fishing boards. I left a favorite (BR) because the owner told me I was intimidating members who feared to post behind me. What a shame. I write the way I think and am not smart enough to change that. That's like being unwelcome in a science classroom because of always standing and having the right answers to questions while most other answers are a little off or incomplete. Rather than attempt to change my ways I unsubscribed as soon as I read that owner's PM. Never looked back, but had a lot of "friends" there liking my input. The trouble I had in BM started when I defended harvesting of some bass, opposing C&R as a logical, science-based general practice everywhere. I paid a price for standing with biology instead of emotion.

But here so far I don't recall any serious opposition to ideas or unconstructive criticism. As on other boards there will always be some youngsters coming on with a few months of experience challenging us old timers who've already screened out what doesn't work well. We don’t have the decades of youth ahead, so tend to squeeze out all the quality we can. I have a favorite saying for face to face encounters like that. I let them ramble on until they run out of talk. "Is that all you have to say? If they say "Yes" in some form, I close with "Then I'm smarter than you are since I know all you know and still know what I knew." Sometimes that wakes a guy up. It’s just a guy thing, like driving in a strange city lost but refusing to ask directions. Although I don’t hesitate to help when asked, I’ll let an out-of-towner drive by my house 500 times probably looking for Michele street where it seems nobody can get there from anywhere else because one end of it looks like a driveway.

Another of my problems is long posts like this one. I’m not much of a one-line communicator, wanting to speak my peace in one place then move on. Sometimes I suppose that gags some folks trying to absorb what a lifetime of fishing has resulted in for me. All too often a “serious” discussion gets broken up with comics and lots of unrelated dialog, another reason for wanting to spit it out all at once to keep it together. In the past many times I’ve answered like a sonar question, my answer back on page one, followed by discussion about asteroids destroying earth, and on page 9 the same question shows back up. Sometimes it irritates folks for me to answer “Please read page one”. Kinda embarrassing?

Tom, others, and myself do have a lot of stuff not brought up yet. How can you detail a lifetime of learning? For me I’ve sort of retreated to a post and run mode, mostly camping out where folks are really serious about learning at a time they can’t actually fish, until ice-out. I go where there’s a demand for actual fishing talk.

I’ve written a lot of board articles, some getting a “Thanks for the article” from an owner or moderator, but no discussion or follow-up whatsoever, so I cut way back on those. Without feedback to show interest it’s a little hard to put that kind of time into something. Communicating like that is like sending notes over the sea in a bottle. It’s more satisfying to engage in a more “live” discussion. I don’t know what the answers will be. I do realize some members are reading and appreciating everything. Because we know that we keep on through the deafening silence.

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Besides all that I fish a LOT all year long, still work second shift, all a lot more than getting time on the internet :D

Good grief! I was out walking in shorts this morning and a fishing buddy drove by commenting on my paper white legs. "You look like a corpse. Hide them thangs." So there's ANOTHER project to work on. I'll sure be glad to shed the heavy winter threads. Some days I wear so much I can't bend over in the boat. Hey, 40 degrees is UNBEARABLE for some of us Southern boys :mad:

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Ouachita said:
Besides all that I fish a LOT all year long, still work second shift, all a lot more than getting time on the internet :D

Good grief! I was out walking in shorts this morning and a fishing buddy drove by commenting on my paper white legs. "You look like a corpse. Hide them thangs." So there's ANOTHER project to work on. I'll sure be glad to shed the heavy winter threads. Some days I wear so much I can't bend over in the boat. Hey, 40 degrees is UNBEARABLE for some of us Southern boys :mad:

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Jim, I quite the Insider board because don't have the time and this is a good group of people.That for suggesting it. by they way, I did fix the Arkie statement.
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I disagree with odlskool about nobodt cares,I searched through the archives to find this,I look foward to th insight of yours
Did I say nobody cares?? It's been a foot in mouth kinda day for me and not even a full moon! The only reason I do this is in the hope someone benefits from the years of experience that they may not have. I think I'll go fishing and hope that I can stay in the boat without falling over board.
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Someone asked me back a few months ago on the BASSInsider board what I thought he should use at Amistad the first weeks in March. Everyone was predicting the bass would be in full spawn by March at Amistad and my response was it's a late year because of cold weather. Bass don't know what the calendar is and should be in pre spawn, staging in 25 to 35 feet of water on major points near spawning flats.
I watched the Elite series tournament event today, missed it last week and was surprised to see only one boat was fishing outside on major points with jigs in 25 to 35 feet of water, targeting staging fish. That one angler won the tournament. Big surprise! To me the surprise was that the majority of the pro's didn't get on that simple pattern.
I have been fishing the local lakes and find myself alone enjoying a wonderful big bass bite very similar to what you see on the Amistad tape. Fishing my old jig and deep swim baits on major points and catching a lot of big bass.
If the bass where you are fishing haven't moved up on beds, go outside and catch them, they are waiting for you.
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Ps; Remitz was using a brown/purple/green 3/4oz football jig w/Yamamoto hula grub twin tail, watermelon green/purple/black flake. The bass held onto this combination long enough for Remitz to set the hook. My guess is Remitz only detected about 25% of the strikes with the presentation method he was using because of his rod position was held too high, in my opinion. Must have been a very good jig bite. Give the youngster credit for staying focused and with his pattern, when all the big guns were inside throwing swimbaits.
 
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I watched that show today also and it makes me want to move to Del Rio to be able to fish Amistad allot :)

I was glad to see the kid beat those pro's. It was a nice show to watch.
 

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My guess is Remitz only detected about 25% of the strikes with the presentation method he was using because of his rod position was held too high,
what would be the proper position fishing a jig as he was?
and thanks for all of your time, i have saved most all of what you and jim have posted to be printed out for future refreshers.
thanks to both of you.
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Tom and Jim have posted some of the best, most insightful posts i have ever read...Awesome detail....Worded just right for a relative rookie like myself. Guess ill use this thread to thank them both and everyone else that posts, bullitensabout things that noone has asked about...A lot of times when i read them, they answer questions i simple hadnt thought of asking....
 
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