Yep I completely agree. Heck, look at the Chrysler, Ford and GMC... all are doing bad because more people would rather buy foreign cars. I wonder what it will take for majority to start being more adminant about buying american again... like people once were.KeithsCatch said:
I am pretty bothered by this China poison in pet foods
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I am pretty mad at American Companies continually buying crap from China. This is totally out of hand. This pet food recall is just one example as to why I am furious. Why are companies buying Wheat Gluten from China? Scratch that, I know why to save a few bucks. So in the process they can poison millions of animals along the way. Way to go GREEDY American companies. We get what we pay for huh? Which is garbage.
Sorry guys, I am pretty tired of this practice. It just sort of gets me. Now all the corporations are putting into play their damage control speaches and press releases trying to reassure Americans that they are voluntarily removing these products because they care about our pets and the quality of their products. Yeah right. If you cared about the quality of your products you would be buying Wheat products right here in your own backyard and would be supporting American farmers. Instead all they care about is the bottom line.
Now there is talk about Food grade wheat gluten being contaminated.
I am just in one of those moods today.
Sorry guys, I am pretty tired of this practice. It just sort of gets me. Now all the corporations are putting into play their damage control speaches and press releases trying to reassure Americans that they are voluntarily removing these products because they care about our pets and the quality of their products. Yeah right. If you cared about the quality of your products you would be buying Wheat products right here in your own backyard and would be supporting American farmers. Instead all they care about is the bottom line.
Now there is talk about Food grade wheat gluten being contaminated.
I am just in one of those moods today.
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They did it to themselves there is very few if any cars being made in the USA. They layed everyone off and moved their plants to mexico they get what they get oh yeah they also got awesome tax credits to do it.LakeCityYankee said:Yep I completely agree. Heck, look at the Chrysler, Ford and GMC...KeithsCatch said:If you cared about the quality of your products you would be buying Wheat products right here in your own backyard and would be supporting American farmers. Instead all they care about is the bottom line.
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I agree with Drew. They have done this to ourselves. They deserve what they get now. I would like to believe that we can change it but I don't think we will.
There is maybe a handfull of stuff that we as Americans can still buy that is being made in America.
I hope we can get back on the right track.
There is maybe a handfull of stuff that we as Americans can still buy that is being made in America.
I hope we can get back on the right track.
Toyota & Honda cars are made in the USA, this might mean we are becomeing a Third World Nation.
Rodney
Rodney
I have Quit wal- mart (but my wife hasn't) I'm trying to do my part!
What American company are you talking about? Not to nit-pick, but rather to get to the heart of the issue, Menu Foods is a Canadian company with production facilities in Canada and the U.S. They produce wet and dry pet food for a huge number of brands sold throughout North America. I have seen many of these brands sold in Europe as well, but what I don't know is whether the production of those brands (Iams, Eukanuba, Science) were accomplished in North America or elsewhere under license.KeithsCatch said:I am pretty mad at American Companies continually buying crap from China. This is totally out of hand.
So what we have is a Canadian company making pet foods for many different labels, some of which are American, buying some base product from China. Your question should more properly be "Why didn't a Canadian company buy Canadian wheat for its product?"
Do you have a problem with Kroger selling a house brand pet food made in Canada rather than in America? Kroger is a major client of Menu Foods. So is Wal-Mart and many other retailers. Do you think retailers should be put in the position of having to produce their own house brands?
This is an international world we live in. We all go fishing with foreign-made goods. I don't see too many people in here or elsewhere in the bass boards railing against Shimano. Perhaps that is because Shimano is one of the gold standards in fishing equipment. Still, try to by an American rod and reel system. Your choices are severely limited - especially when it comes to the reels. Hey, I even see the top end American rod makers using Fuji guides. So much for an all-American product.
You can quit buying at Wal-Mart if you wish. What retailer will you patronize? All retailers use off-shore producers and suppliers. You can drive yourself nuts on this issue if you let it get to you.
If we keep out sourcing all our American made products to third world country's what do we have left here? What does the united states lead the world in production? What do you do for a living? Is your job going to china or south America or Mexico? This is ruining my local economy all our manufacturing jobs local retailers and grocery stores are closing. Why? Because of cheap labor in the third world. Wal-mart is leading the charge. I have job security so to speak. I work at the penitentiary and we have a good supply of bodies that have turned to crime. Instead of the American dream.
I agree about the outsourcing. So many jobs are being out sourced to foreign countries rather than letting an american get the hourly salary. I cant stand when I call up Bellsouth tech support and get a person sitting in India tryin to help me with my phone lines in South Carolina. I always ask what country they are in and when the answer is NOT America, I ask to be transferred to an american agent. The first time I did this I felt a little bad but Ive done it so many times now, it doesnt even phase me. I dont care. The way I see it, they stole my neighbors job and they could be the reason why Little Johnnie's daddy and mommy are both working fulltime and dont havethe time to spend with Little Johnny helping him do school work so that our american youth isnt so far behind the rest of the world when it comes to education. \
I think its all like one big snowball affect... the butterfly affect even.
As far as criminals... here's a fact for you I heard on the radio the other day:
The USA has 5% of the worlds population but houses 20+% of the worlds criminals. The USA also employs 70% of the worlds lawyers. Hows that for some facts.
I think its all like one big snowball affect... the butterfly affect even.
As far as criminals... here's a fact for you I heard on the radio the other day:
The USA has 5% of the worlds population but houses 20+% of the worlds criminals. The USA also employs 70% of the worlds lawyers. Hows that for some facts.
G
HH, are you serious? Do you really want me to list American companies who buy from China? This would be an exhaustive list. Trust me there are plenty to choose from. Perhaps a better list would be to list American companies who do NOT BUY from China.
Besides Menu Foods was not the only guilty company who has pet foods that where filled with the Chinese Wheat Gluten. Del Monte was also on that list. They are the ones who make allot of private label brands found in grocery stores.
Besides Menu Foods was not the only guilty company who has pet foods that where filled with the Chinese Wheat Gluten. Del Monte was also on that list. They are the ones who make allot of private label brands found in grocery stores.
KC, I agree that Menu is a guilty company. I believe they are stonewalling this whole issue. From recent reports, they knew of the toxic problems well before it was publicized, yet did nothing to alert their public to the problem. My wife retired a couple of years ago from a major pet food manufacturer and they too had an issue in an Asian market where tainted food killed pets. The company immediately announced the problem, recalled their foods, and worked with owners of sick animals. Menu has done none of this to date. Who in the pet world is ever going to buy Iams or Eukanuba again - at least with any measure of confidence?
I don't believe the issue has anything to do with outsourcing or anything like that. Commodities have to come from somewhere. As with almost everything else, price and availability are major considerations. Menu should have had a testing protocol in place to ensure the quality of the product they were buying. Menu failed to police its own production.
Now as for internationalization, I am typing this message on a Dell computer. An American company which has all of its components made and assembled in 30 to 40 different countries. I am using Microsoft as an OS, which code is written and tested in a dozen different countries. Do I get an amen for buying American? I have a BPS baitcaster in the garage (with a monster birdsnest I put on it last week) that was made in China for BPS. Give me a high five for buying an American brand? Would I pay twice as much for that reel just to have it "made" in America? Hell no. The quality of that reel would not support the asking price of American labor.
Thomas Friedman has it right - the world is flat. Although I am a bit surprised it took him so long to discover it so.
I don't believe the issue has anything to do with outsourcing or anything like that. Commodities have to come from somewhere. As with almost everything else, price and availability are major considerations. Menu should have had a testing protocol in place to ensure the quality of the product they were buying. Menu failed to police its own production.
Now as for internationalization, I am typing this message on a Dell computer. An American company which has all of its components made and assembled in 30 to 40 different countries. I am using Microsoft as an OS, which code is written and tested in a dozen different countries. Do I get an amen for buying American? I have a BPS baitcaster in the garage (with a monster birdsnest I put on it last week) that was made in China for BPS. Give me a high five for buying an American brand? Would I pay twice as much for that reel just to have it "made" in America? Hell no. The quality of that reel would not support the asking price of American labor.
Thomas Friedman has it right - the world is flat. Although I am a bit surprised it took him so long to discover it so.
Point taken. Lets agree to disagree and not get into a pissing match. Drew
Drew, there is absolutely no pm on my part. Believe me when I say I share the frustration with others who are reluctant to have to deal with the new realities of marketplace. While I like the explosion of affordable goods and services made available to us, I hate the erosion of the primacy of the US labor force. It's good for my 401K, but I fear it will be bad for the country in the long run.
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