Well, Keith, I first want to assure you I'm with you all the way with red. My experience has been with Ratl Traps as far as lipless goes. Those have always been great certain times of the year here, especially in the fall and pre-spawn. So far I know the Xcalibur Rayburn red catches stripers like crazy. I'll be giving it a basshole workout tomorrow, bass biting or not. I asked and was told many times the bite is off, but I'm going anyway. That's a nice job on that Renegade, a paint job probably no bass in any lake has seen on a Renegade! It ought to be hot. Keep sticking up for the red lipless. Eventually you'll get some converts.
Jim
Jim