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The Feb '07 Bassmaster magazine published a jig fishing article that, in my opinion, plagiarizes my Horizontal Jigging written for In-Fisherman back in Feb. '95. This may sound like sour grapes, however I believe that Bassmaster or anyone else should recognize the source of the original ideas. I coined terms like "horizontal" and "long cast" jigging presentations over a decade ago. The fact that I'm one of the original BASS life members they would give you some respect! This is also the second issue that Bassmaster has copied information posted for there articles. Whatever... you can read here first before being published.
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u came to mind as soon as i saw the cover. i figured it was mostly ur article.
wish they would give credit where credit is due.
later tom
keep the great posts coming.
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Tom, I think I read your article. I know that I have had tremendous success casting jigs and I rely on that technique more often than not. In fact, the best bass I caught on Dardanelle last year, 7lb 3ozs, came off that technique. It has been effective every where I have used it. Sometimes, even with my failing memory, I'll read an article in BASS and think--Haven't I seen that before? But then again, the mind is the second thing to go, so they say.

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Tom, I think I read your article. I know that I have had tremendous success casting jigs and I rely on that technique more often than not. In fact, the best bass I caught on Dardanelle last year, 7lb 3ozs, came off that technique. It has been effective every where I have used it. Sometimes, even with my failing memory, I'll read an article in BASS and think--Haven't I seen that before? But then again, the mind is the second thing to go, so they say.

Gary
If you post your email in the messages, I will would be send you a copy.
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Tom,
I would like to check that article out, I probably read it before but can't recall. I will send you a pm with my e-mail.
Thanks, I know I need to force myself to learn more about jig fishing.
 

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Tom, I got the article, thanks. One of the things I like to find are what I call sunken islands. These humps can be as shallow as 1 or 2 feet under water down to about 12 to 18 feet deep. I like the ones with a gentle drop but have done well with the steep dropoffs too. I like to cast the complete length of the island, beginning in the deeper water and with each cast, work my way back up the side of the island getting shallower with each cast. I work the jig steadily, not necessarily swimming it, but with a slower steady retrieve, with a few intermittent stops and hops. The key for me is casting the entire length of the island and working deep to shallow. This may not be real clear to people since it is the first time I've tried to explain this in written form, but when I get bit, I play close attention to area and depth because I have yet to catch just one fish doing this. Usually I find 3 or 4 and when the bite stops, I work on around the island. This has worked for me here on Dardanelle and I have sure caught a lot of fish this way. Anytime the bite gets real tough, I go island hopping cause for some reason, they are there. The other thing that is strange to me is that there doesn't have to be a lot of structure on the island itself either. It can be a mud flat with a dropoff or a submurged sand bar on the river. But casting jigs in these situations produces fish and a lot of times, big fish. I always have a jig tied and won't leave home without it. :fishing01:
 

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Under water islands by whatever name are big bass magnets. Fishing outside water on the main lake will open a lot of structure to a good jig fisherman. There is a diagram in the article on how to approach a major point and you fish underwater structure very similar, just start at the shallow spot and let the bass tell you how they want the jig moving up, down or parallel and what depth they prefer eating it.
The primary big bass location is usually on the slope that leads to a bench or channel, unless there is isolated structure like rock piles, gravel/clay transitions or cover like brush.
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Tom, you might as well accept that as a positive as much as possible. They say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. I would add "and thievery".

A couple of years I posted a long article on one of the boards I visit. Sometime later I clicked on a Google link to read up on that subject, I think using sonar to locate deep water structure, cover, bass and crappie in deep main lake waters. And No, I have yet to read a book on that subject. I saw a lot of familiarity, and suspected my wording was in there word for word. Sure enough. I pasted a paragraph in quotes in Google and came up with at least 4 additional fishing forums where I was copied verbatim, but changes were made to make it a little different, like applying to Texas lakes. I contacted one board owner who emailed back "Sue me." I researched it and learned that can't happen. Even if the article was copyrighted it nearly impossible to do a thing about it unless someone is marketing it, like in a book.

It's a different world from what the two of us grew up in. Crap went on back then too, but folks back then seemed to know right from wrong, while too many these days don't see a difference.

Anyway, that's how you confirm that is happening. In Google or any search engine type in two quote marks then paste the suspect sentence or paragraph between them. It's a high probability that even one sentence exactly matching was copied. A whole paragraph matching word for word? It ought to be inarguable court evidence.

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Tom, you might as well accept that as a positive as much as possible. They say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. I would add "and thievery".

A couple of years I posted a long article on one of the boards I visit. Sometime later I clicked on a Google link to read up on that subject, I think using sonar to locate deep water structure, cover, bass and crappie in deep main lake waters. And No, I have yet to read a book on that subject. I saw a lot of familiarity, and suspected my wording was in there word for word. Sure enough. I pasted a paragraph in quotes in Google and came up with at least 4 additional fishing forums where I was copied verbatim, but changes were made to make it a little different, like applying to Texas lakes. I contacted one board owner who emailed back "Sue me." I researched it and learned that can't happen. Even if the article was copyrighted it nearly impossible to do a thing about it unless someone is marketing it, like in a book.

It's a different world from what the two of us grew up in. Crap went on back then too, but folks back then seemed to know right from wrong, while too many these days don't see a difference.

Anyway, that's how you confirm that is happening. In Google or any search engine type in two quote marks then paste the suspect sentence or paragraph between them. It's a high probability that even one sentence exactly matching was copied. A whole paragraph matching word for word? It ought to be inarguable court evidence.

Jim
The Bassmaster editorail staff claim they never knew about the article. At least In-fisherman paid me initally for it. It's being an unpaid or non acknowlewdge contibutor to BASS that gets your goat...oh well onward and upward.
 

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Watching the last Elite 50 tournament at Smith Mountain reservoirlast week reminded me of the "horizontal jigging" article and this post. The majority of the top finishers and winner were drop shotting for early limits and casting jigs for kicker bass. The jigs were 7/16 ounce silicone skirted football heads with creature trailers. The target zone being primary secondary points with isolated rocks piles for post spawn bass.
I felt good that this information had been shared with TBH members and hoped most of you new exactly what the pros were doing, why it was working and how they presented both the cast jig and drop shot.
Tom
note; until Jared gets the time to post the jig article ;
http://home.cfl.rr.com/fish4funinfl/fishing pictures/sales003.pdf
 

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I printed the article out when it was brought here, the link is gone now. Tom, would it be possible to link this again? I think many of the new folks would find it most helpful.
Rodney
 
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