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Old 03-27-2009, 10:04 AM   #1 (permalink)
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A while back there was some discussion about what to do if you are fishing an area that you are positive holds fish, and you get snagged up. One of the great ideas was to cut your line, tie it off to a empty water bottle, continue fishing, then attempt to retrieve your lure after you have "fished that spot out".

My question is this... Say for example you did just that. Then 15 minutes later you came back to retrieve your lure and found your bottle had moved and in fact, the "snag" you had was a fish that had just wrapped itself up on timber for example.

My question is this, (purely out of curiosity), would this be considered a "legal" catch? #1 from a Rules N Regs standpoint, #2 from a Tournament standpoint?



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Old 03-27-2009, 10:45 AM   #2 (permalink)
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When Ike broke off a bass near the boat, the breaking near the reel, he jumped in the water, holding the boat and retrieved the line. Ike then got back in the boat holding the line and hand lined the bass into the boat. The rules allow getting into the water as long as you stay in contact with the boat, however the catch would have been disallowed because the bass was hand lined, Ike didn't use his rod/reel to land the bass. The rules state that you must use a rod with a reel mounted. The mounted reel came about because Dee Thomas used a 14 foot rod, no reel, for his original flipping technique.
I haven't read the all the various rules in a long time, so could have change and not familiar with FLW rules.
The bobber/plastic bottle could also be considered fishing with 2 outfit at the same time and that could also be an infraction rules and some state regulations.
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Old 03-27-2009, 04:55 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Depends on locale. Here it would not be legal because hand and line method is against the law.
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I don't believe jug fishing is legal at our lake, but I know down in Lake Cumberland many jug fish.
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Old 03-27-2009, 06:39 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Hey Jig Man,I live in MO,and last time I checked jug lines,limb lines and trot-lines were still legal here.You don't use a rod-reel to retrieve them.
The only problem I see would be the 2nd rig rule.
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Hey Jig Man,I live in MO,and last time I checked jug lines,limb lines and trot-lines were still legal here.You don't use a rod-reel to retrieve them.
The only problem I see would be the 2nd rig rule.
I was replying to the broken line and pulling it in by hand not the water bottle which would not be a legal jug line because it isn't anchored, labeled, or watched.
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MY mistake Jig Man.
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I am pretty sure there is nothing in the rules of BASS that prohibits hand lining a fish if you had a backlash or the reel seized up for some reason. I think this whole hypothetical is a bit unlikely. I don't see a fish hanging me up without me knowing that it is there.
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Interesting! I will ask about this next time I see a game warden. When I have done this in the past, it was purely to mark my snagged lure. I have never caught a fish this way. I thought that it wasn't much different than throwing out marker floats. But I guess this does have a hook attached and a picky warden could think it was an infraction. As for doing this in a tournament. Again , I will now have to ask the director of the tournament. If you break off and leave your lure and some line, thats ok. But tying a marker to the end of that line might not be???????? hmmmmm Now it makes me wonder if I was doing something wrong when I did this.
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Depends on locale. Here it would not be legal because hand and line method is against the law.
Jigman,

Are you sure? The situation mentioned about Ike was at Table Rock Lake.
As far as tournament rules are concerned it would be a legal fish.
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